My good friend Gary Marino is a treasure trove of old school UFC pics and I am going to showcase them here on occasion. Today we have pics of Jerry Bohlander, Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz, Dana White, Tank Abbott, Marco Ruas and a very young Vitor Belfort, Smith vs Coleman and the late Evan Tanner. Most of these feature Mr. Marino as well. These are pics you will not see anywhere else. Thanks, Gary! [gallery]
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Ken Pavia and other top MMA agents who had fighters under contract with ProElite have banded together in order to stop the November 17th auction by Showtime of ProElite's assets. ProElite had borrowed a lot of money from Showtime and couldn't pay it back. Showtime then decided to try and recoup some of that loot by having a fire sale of all of ProElite's assets, including fighter contracts. The sale of contracts is what has "The Pav" and the other agents in an uproar. They feel that the fighters are under "personal services" which means they are under no obligation to perform if the contract is transferred. MMAPayout.com posted a letter by Ken Pavia and the other agents:
Huntington Beach, CA November 10, 2008 – We as sports agents battle against each other every day for the best opportunities for our clients. Ultimately we realize the struggle is always about the client’s best interest. That is why we as the elite agents in MMA today have band together to address what we perceive to be a grave injustice. On November 5th in an SEC filing and in related advertisements, Showtime Networks Inc. announced its intention to liquidate “Collateral” as defined by the assets of Pro Elite and their related entities at auction scheduled for November 17th. Included in these assets are certain fighter contracts. These fighters are our clients. Individually we consummated promotional agreements with Pro Elite. These agreements were made based on a multiplicity of factors including but not limited to relationships with certain Pro Elite personnel, venues, television exposure, jurisdictional concerns, public relations support, and numerous other intangibles. These considerations are not readily transferable. Whether or not these contracts are legally transferable is a matter of law. What is not at issue however is Showtime’s disclaimer that the assets are being sold “as-is, where-is basis, without recourse, warranty or guarantee of any kind.” We intend to fight the lawful ability to transfer these assets, and as we believe these are personal services contracts, we do not believe there is an obligation to perform if transferred. With pooled resources we are prepared to fight this issue. The unity of this effort is unprecedented and the message that is being sent is clear. Absent significant pre-established negotiated terms, do not bid on these contracts unless you are prepared to fight the challenge to their legality. It is our intention to honor our commitment to Pro Elite, but if Pro Elite is not able to perform in accordance with the contractual terms, the fighters should be granted unrestricted free agency with the unfettered ability to enter the marketplace. Ken Pavia This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it www.MMAagents.com Monte Cox Ed Soares Matt Stansell Bob Cook Chas Bowling Cesar Gracie
So the plot thickens. Will Showtime go ahead with the sale?  Who, if anyone, will be brave enough to buy a fighters' contract knowing that they will be in a legal war with the agents? The aution is one week away.  Let's see what happens tomorrow.
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You remember Pulp Fiction, right? Well, now we all know what was in the briefcase. It was Kimbo Slice's very soul. And Showtime and ProElite are engaged in a battle to the death over it. I mentioned the other day that all of ProElite's property, including fighter contracts, Gina Carano's towel and Kimbo Slice's soul, were being auctioned off by Showtime. This was being done because ProElite had borrowed money from Showtime but failed to pay it back. Well, when word got back to ProElite that Showtime was selling their asses, I mean assets, they went ballistic and now they're challenging the sale. So we may have to wait a bit longer than expected to get ahold of that briefcase.
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Oh man, not since the days of Crazy Eddie have I been in such a tizzy over a sale.  ProElite is having a going-out-of-business sale and it's a doozy. Everything must go. From home videos to fighter contracts, everything is on sale. From the official notice:
Notice is hereby given that the Collateral (as defined below) will be sold by Showtime Networks Inc. ("Showtime") at a public sale on November 17, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Pacific Standard Time) at the offices of Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP, 350 South Grand Avenue, Los Angeles, California 90071. The Collateral includes all contracts between any Debtor and mixed martial arts fighters (including, but not limited to, Kevin Ferguson a.k.a. "Kimbo Slice", Gina Carano, Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler, Frank Shamrock, Antonio Silva, Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, Scott Smith, Nick Diaz, Cristiane Venancio Justino a.k.a. "Chris Cyborg", Eddie Alvarez, Yves Edwards and Wilson Reis) and all of each Debtor's video library, still photographs and home videos (e.g., DVDs and VHS tapes).
Sweet! I've got my eyes set on Nick Diaz's contract.  It's written on E-Z Wider rolling papers and it's only 99 bucks. Anything not sold will be carted away.  And in a funny twist of fate, Kimbo Slice, in his new career, will be the one doing the carting. 'Shop Props to UG/RoccoSiefriddi
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Long Island fighter Pete Sell is making his return to the Octagon at UFC 90 this Saturday. He is taking on Josh Burkman in a fight that is a must win for both fighters. I caught up with Pete recently and we talked about the Burkman fight and also about the bad blood between him and Tim Syliva. Garv: Hey, what's up, Pete. First off, your nickname, Drago. Is that from Rocky? Sell: Ah, Rocky 4 man. I had it back in the day, since I was about 13. It has nothing to do with my fight career. It's just something that stuck with me. I actually used to hate it. And my friends kept calling me it, they thought it was funny at the time. And it just stuck after awhile. Garv: Now you're back in the UFC. Fighting Josh Burkman. Sell: Yes. UFC 90. Garv: What's your take on Josh? Sell: He's kind of pretty much in the same predicament I'm in. You know what I'm saying. We're both on a losing streak and we gotta prove ourselves to be in the UFC. So, the stakes are high and let's get it on. Garv: It should be a war. Sell: Everything's about excitement with me, you know. That's what it's all about. I'm gonna put on a show for the fans and mix it up and it's gonna be a war. And I'm excited about it. Garv: Hey, is there some bad blood between you and Tim Sylvia? SEll: I don't know. Maybe on his part. I mean, from what I heard, somebody told me it was in a thing about the best of 2007 that he said he didn't like me. I don't even know the guy. You know what I mean? So go fuck yourself. I don't know, I don't care. You know what I'm saying? I mean, good for you. You big doof. I don't care. Whatever. Garv: (Laughs) Hell yeah. All right, Pete. Thanks. Matt Serra, TheGARV, Pete Sell
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I had a nice little chat today with Frank Shamrock and we talked about the Kimbo fight and the upcoming Brother vs Brother fight he'll be having with Ken. TheGARV: Hey, Frank.  Man, what a crazy night that was down in Florida. Frank: (Laughs) Man, it was sure was. Probably the wildest night I've ever done. TheGARV: After Ken dropped out of the fight, you immediately volunteered to take his place.  So it seems like Kimbo's team had a choice between you and Seth.  I know that before they agreed to fight Seth they said they needed to see tapes first.  Was the choice to fight Seth instead of you made by Kimbo's team or EliteXC? Frank: You know, honestly, that I dont' truly know.  I just know that I threw my hat in the ring and no one picked it up.  I kept pressing but I don't know who put the final kibosh on it. TheGARV: Were you very disappointed? Frank:  Oh yeah.  Yeah. I thought it was a great opportunity for television.  The show was going down, they were thinking about canceling the show until we had Kimbo fighting somebody.  So it was a pretty touchy situation. TheGARV: Now, Frank, we all know that you are light years ahead of Kimbo in terms of technique.  But he's much bigger than you, 240 pounds, hits hard, and you're coming off the broken arm.  What was going through your mind in terms of mental preparation for fighting this guy? Frank:  Well, I wouldn't have accepted the fight if I didn't think could honestly compete. So that was kind of a mental process I had to go through.  It took about three of four minutes. TheGARV:  (Laughs) Frank:  I figured I'd be kicking his guts, keeping him away.  And then, soon as I got him to reach I'd be taking him down and choking him out or something. TheGARV:  Sounds like your style. Frank: Yeah, that was sort of my general plan and I've been pretty successful with it. And he's got a pretty obvious style of power punching. Not all that hard to figure out.  I mean, you know, it was really hard for me to try and switch gears from being a professional commentator to flipping my mind at the last minute and get into fighting mode. TheGARV: Looking across at Kimbo, that's gotta be scary. Frank: Everything about fighting is scary. There's no, like, not scary part.  Being mentally unprepared, being physically unprepared, being very distracted, all that weighed on me because I knew I wasn't one hundred percent focused on that paticular opponent or whatever.  But you know, Garv, I've been doing this game so long, it took me about 15 minutes to get my mind right, make it relaxed, you know, and realize that I was going to battle, not going to talk.  And then it was my martial art training: keep my mind in order, keep my body in order, then go. TheGARV:  And having seen him fight before, you knew what to look for and how to exploit his weaknesses. Frank:  Yeah. You know, to me it wasn't a big hurdle.  It was just physically and mechanically, just that moment.  I had also spent four days trying to figure out how to be impartial in my brother's fight. How to be unemotional about that moment.  I had really spent a lot of time preparing for an entirely different emotional and physical event. TheGARV: Yeah, I'll say. Frank: It was quite the gear shift.  I think we went from like third to reverese. TheGARV: You know what would have been funny, if you went in the ring and Ken did the commentary. Frank: (Laughs)  Who knows?  In MMA anything can happen. TheGARV:  How did you think Ken would do against Kimbo? Frank:  I really thought Ken would beat Kimbo.  Because even if his broken down, his mind and his technique is still ten times what Kimbo knows.  And any little mistake, any little slip up would have been Ken's opportunity to win that match. TheGARV:  I saw Ken going for the leg. Frank: I saw a jab, a double leg, turn the corner and start working some holds right away.  Kimbo is just not advanced enough to even understand what's going on at that point.  I know he's got Bas, I know he's training, but training and doing is two different worlds. TheGARV:  But then Ken got cut.  What happened exactly? Frank:  It looks like he had an old cut, probably within the last couple of weeks.  And it was probably closed up with superglue or whatever and it looks like somebody hit it and it popped open.  You know, I came down pretty hard on Ken but the truth is, stuff like that happens. TheGARV: Yeah, I mean he wanted to fight with the cut, but the commission said no. Frank: Right. In all fairness to him, it wasn't him who said I'm not gonna fight. It was the doctors who absolutely would not allow him to fight.  I mean, I came down hard on Ken, but it was just because that was his moment, that was our moment and then the whole thing literally just slipped away from us.  But I've seen guys get hurt, I've seen guys twist things, break things, whatever.  Anything can happen.  Especially when you're doing so much and you're trying to prepare for one moment.  I can understand it happening, but it always happens to Ken.  You know, Ken is "that guy."  If there was a pail in the room, Ken would step in it. TheGARV:  (Laughs) When Ken went down, Kimbo had to fight against an unknown opponent.  That's gotta be tough.  It looked like he was a little reckless, just steamrolling across the cage right into that punch. Frank: Yeah, he did what you're never supposed to do and that is to move forward with your hands down.  That's striking 101 and Seth has been doing karate since he was seven and did the first thing he thought of, which was punch, kick. TheGARV: Tough break for Kimbo, getting caught. Frank: I have to give credit to Kimbo.  It's a heck of a game to shift gears like that. To know you're going to fight somebody you know nothing about.  To know that everything's on the line for this one moment and to have people negotiating with you right before the show so the show could go on. That whole pschycology and mental drain, that's gotta be exhausting.  Then to go in there and still have to have to fight at that level. That's tough.  I've seen Kimbo take massive blows before, and that wasn't that big of a shot, but it was enough, and the shot we have, you could see his head shake.  It really shook his brain. TheGARV: I think it was as much him moving forward as it was the power of the punch. Frank:  All those events combined and that punch, that was the straw there. TheGARV:  Mauro said Kimbo should get a "mulligan."  Not to fight Seth again, but to fight Ken.  Will that interfere with your timeline with Ken?  I know your brother vs brother match is signed. Frank: The timeline is the first quarter of next year, so we've got March and April as months we're going for.  You know what, Kimbo needed a fight to prove he was legitmate.  And that moment passed him by.  Fighting Ken now isn't going to prove he's legitimate.  I really think Kimbo's moment of proving has passed him by and now he's dig like everyone else. TheGARV:  His management team has done an amazing job of minimizing the risk while maximising the profits. Frank: Yeah. We're in the business of fighting and it's prize fighting. So God bless him, he got the prize, he got it more than once and he's a star.  And now he has to do what all the other stars do and that's to dig in and prove his worth and value.  But I don't think he's going to be his stepping stone or opportunity anymore.  Now, especially with (Ken and I) fighting each other taking main stage.  Ken's lost a lot of credibility in the marketplace.  People think he should have went in there and fought with one eyeball or whatever was necessary.  I feel and support that but this fight, brother vs brother, it's gotta be now.  It's gotta be the next thing we get to. TheGARV: You've been wanting this fight for a long time. Frank: I've been on this for two and half years and the end is in sight and I think the story is ready to be told and come to a close. TheGARV:  I am certainly looking forward to that fight, and Frank, thanks as always it's a pleasure speaking with you. Frank: Thank you, Garv.
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Anyone that has seen Hermes Franca fight knows that he brings it with devastating overhand rights, knees, and sick jiu-jitsu. With a record of 18-7, with 6 KO/TKOs, and 11 Submissions you can see that he goes for the finish and makes exciting fights. Recently he has had two tough decision wins being out wrestled and controlled by Frankie Edger and then Champion Sean Sherk. Before that he was on an 8 fight win streak finishing all opponents by KO or Submission! Hermes is looking forward to getting back to his winning ways and came to the World No Gi Jiu-jitsu Championships in Southern California to get some competition in!

DTW- You just competed here at the No Gi World Jiu-jitsu Championships. Tell us how it went and the results of each match.

Franca- It was great. It was a very good event. However, I won my first match by points, my second match by points, and I got disqualified in the finals for going for a heal hook. It's my fault that I didn't know the rules that heal hooks were not allowed. I just need to learn the rules next time.

DTW- Do you know whom you are fighting next and when that will be?

Franca- I will be fighting Gleison Tibau (15-6 w/2 KO/TKO's, 7 Subs) who is an American Top Team Fighter. He is very good. I am training hard and hopefully it will be a good fight. It should be taking place at UFC 90 in Chicago on Oct. 25th!

DTW- What problems does Tibau potentially present?

Franca- Well he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu, a good wrestler, and a great fighter. He's fought top guys and is well-rounded.

DTW- The recent Kenny Florian/Roger Huerta fight was a really featured match up. Would you like to fight those guys? Huerta and you both bring it, that would be exciting!

Franca- Of course I would be interested in fighting those guys. They have big names and this is my job.

DTW- What about a fight someday against Joe Stevenson? You were both #1 Challengers that have fought for the title and that would be another exciting match for you.

Franca- Yes, he is a great fighter and in one or two more fights that would be a great match for me. I like his style! He is aggressive and his stamina is good.

DTW- What was it like fighting Sean Sherk with his constant pressure? You kept coming as hard as you could with a couple of devastating knees and close guillotine chokes.

Franca- It is very hard when a guy is trying to break your game and you just don't know what to do. It was a good fight and it showed me my weakness. I have to work on my wrestling and I have been doing so.

DTW- Tell us about your school, you fairly recently broke away from the Armory and opened your own place?

Franca- I've been teaching in West Palm Beach, Florida and I will be opening another one in Jupiter, Florida in the next few weeks. In Palm Beach I teach at the Palm Beach Boxing Club, and my place in Jupiter will be the Jupiter Combat Club. My website at www.HermesFranca.tv is under construction.

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I spoke with my good bud Frank Shamrock today to get his thoughts on the GSP fight and to find out what he's up to. Hey Frank, thanks for the interview. In the previous interview we talked about you fighting GSP. Did you catch his fight against Fitch? Nah, I didn't watch it. I heard he smashed Fitch though. Yeah, he dominated Fitch. Yeah, I figured he would. What do you see as GSP's strengths and weaknesses? Well, he's just a well rounded guy. That's what everybody forgets--that it's still martial arts. You need to know a little bit about everything and have confidence in it. And that's why he smashed Fitch. He knows how to box and he knows when someone doesn't know how to box, I mean really know how to punch. He has experience, he has confidence and he has enough in each area, punching, kicking, wrestling, submissions. He's good at the basics. A good athlete. There was some talk of GSP moving up to fight Silva. I think naturally Silva's just way too big for him. I think they're on the same level skill-wise. I think they both have stronger assets in different areas but overall I think they're both really good. But I think Silva's way too big. How about you? Do you think you're physically bigger than GSP? You know, I think so. I probably have an inch or so on him. I think he's right around 175 or so. My natural is around 185 or so. My body's natural weight is 185, 186. Is that what you're at right now? I'm about 191 or 192, but I equate those five extra pounds to beer and good living. (Laughs) Nice. The truth is when I'm not having a beer every other day or a steak or two a week, I'm actually about 186. You gotta live a little too. I ate chicken and rice for two and half years and it was one of the worst experiences of my live. Here's a funny thing about GSP. After the Fitch fight there was a GIF going around that showed GSP licking his fingers then apparently pinching his nipples. (Laughs) And people were laughing and everything, and then Phil Baroni came on the thread and said that the reason GSP did this was because he had "bitch tit" and that when he does that, it's less noticeable. (Laughing) Uh, wow! That's awesome! I don't even know what to think. How do people know this stuff? I've never pinched my nipples before a fight but whatever gets you going, man. Right. You know, he seemed to be looking at Fitch when he did it... (Laughs) Maybe he was just turning himself on, I don't know. That's funny. That's what happens when you get a bunch of people watching... Every move you make. Everything you do. Ok, now to Robbie Lawler. Is that fight signed and in the books? No, it's not signed and in the books yet. I'm still working on it. Are you excited about that fight? Yeah, Lawler's tough and he's young. But he's still a little unpolished and wild. He's got aggression on his side. I even think he might be a little bigger than me. But I think that the crispness of my boxing skill and my ability to stay in there and experience it, I think I'm gonna smash him (laughs). Fair enough. You've got the experience on him and I think you'll be able to make the fight go where you want it to. I see a weakness in his style and that is when you do hit him, he gets mad and he brawls with you. That's just not a mature mentality. So the fight's not signed but it looks like it's probably what's next for you. What about Cung Le? I know he's waiting in the wings. Any progress on that front? Well, yeah Cung Le's definitely waiting in the wings. But we never really made any [money] off the pay per view with Cung because he's kind of a new force in MMA. So that one I think we're gonna have to push out for a little while. To build him up a little first. Yeah. I mean to beat the crap out of each other and not make any money...that wasn't the business I signed up for. If it's not Lawler, then we're also we're really working hard on the Blood Brothers event. Shamrock vs Shamrock. That's scheduled for 2009 sometime, right? Yeah, we've got some dates in the first quarter of 2009. But that's a big network show, so we're working on the networks to get them involved. You mean TV? Oh yeah. Well, you know I think a show of this magnitude, with this idea and concept, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity, once in a sport opportunity. I think a network could use that opportunity to launch their presence into MMA. Brother against brother... Yeah. Everybody gets it. Everyone's going to tune in. And if you provide a quality product you'll get x percentage back and you got your in again. Have you been talking with Ken about this? Yeah. So this is a situation where you put aside your differences to make the fight and then you'll got out and beat the living shit out of one another. (Laughing) Yeah. That's the business. That's true. We both see the value in it and the opportunity. It's only gonna happen once, we should take advantage of it. If we're professionals, we should take advantage of it. Well, I'd love to see it. Thanks, Frank. Frank also told me about a Veteran's program he's working on. He's going to send me some info on it and I will get that posted to the site.
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Jamie Varner retained his WEC 155 pound title the other day by knocking out challenger Marcus Hicks at 2:08 of the first round. I spoke to Jamie about that fight and about some MMA current events. I also would like to thank Jason from LG Sports Marketing for setting this up. TheGARV: Hey, Jamie. Congratulations on your victory the other night. Were you expecting a 2 minute fight against Hicks? Varner: No, man. To be honest I really wasn't. I figured maybe a knockout at the end of the first round, maybe more so into the second. I thought I'd have to wear him out a little, make him a little bit tired and then go in for the kill. But I was lucky enough to land one of those knees and that second kick I threw to his body is what really hurt him. That kick opened him up and then landing those knees was the beginning of the end for him. Your stand up game is looking really sharp. You have a wrestling base, but now your striking is really integrated with the wrestling. The game has evolved so much. Before, wrestlers could get away with just wrestling and being in good shape. But now the way the game's evolved you have to be good at everything. I actually started boxing in 4th grade, long before I ever started wrestling. Then I quit boxing for a long time. Picked it back up when I was 17 years old and I use boxing as cross training for wrestling. My trainers over there at Combat Sports, Trevor Lally and Todd Lally, they're awesome stand up coaches. They're great stand up coaches and they've been working with me on getting my boxing and kickboxing perfected. Guys like Chuck Liddell use their wrestling skills to keep the fight standing. Is that what you're tying to do? You know, just with this fight, yeah. I was looking to use my wrestling just to keep the fight on my feet, because I have such an advantage on my feet with the reach. And I felt like I was a little bit faster, a little bit more explosive with my punches. I even felt that my boxing was more technical than his. So I thought I had the advantage on the feet and that's definitely where I wanted to keep the fight. Unless I started eating too much punishment, then I could always take him down. But I wanted to test the waters on my feet, that's how I used my wrestling. He was a tough son of a bitch, though, he took me down. But I was able to use my wrestling to get back to my feet. Your nickname is The Worm. But you also have another nickname, Showtime. What's up with that? Ok, The Worm was not by my choice. That was actually my trainers, Trevor and Todd Lally. They actually went behind my back and gave me the nickname The Worm before my very first UFC fight and I never wanted that nickname, I never agreed to that. They gave it to me because in wrestling and in grappling, I scramble really well so I'm hard to submit. And they were like: Oh he worms out of everything, he's the worm, he The Worm! I'm like, No. I'm not gonna be The Worm. And so when I got my contract and all the fighter information that they filled out for me, they filled out my nickname as The Worm. And that's how I got it. I told the WEC when I signed with them that it was not my nickname and they were not to put it on their website. And so far they haven't done it. So you're now Showtime? Um, yeah. I don't really go by it. I just thought it was a cool nickname. I wanted to put my stamp on it before someone else took it. But I just like going by Jamie Varner. Saturday night got some big fights coming up. Give us your thoughts on GSP vs Fitch. I think GSP is an amazing athlete and I don't see him losing anytime soon. You don't Fitch's wrestling is going to help him against GSP? No, I don't think so. Heath Herring vs Brock Lesnar? From what I've heard, Heath doesn't like to train that hard. And he's not the smartest fighter when he's in there, so I'd have to give the edge to Brock Lesnar. [Lesnar is] a physical specimen and a great wrestler. I don't think Heath Herring has ever fought a wrestler as good as Brock Lesnar. What about Brock's tattoo? The one on his chest? Holy cow. That's insane. That had to hurt. (Laughs) I think it still hurts. Also fighting at UFC 87 is Huerta vs Florian. I think Huerta's gonna be exposed. I really feel that Kenny Florian is gonna do what Clay Guida was supposed to do, what Clay Guida was doing. I think Huerta's gonna get exposed and I think Kenny Florian will prevail. I think early on in the fight he's either gonna submit him or cut him. Your fight against Razor Rob. There was some controversy over the break in the action after your mouthpiece was knocked out. I thought you were in control of the fight, but some people feel you got an unfair advantage. Would you be willing to rematch Razor Rob? Oh I would love a rematch. I've had a few questions about that, a lot of people ask me questions about [the mouthpiece incident]. I even talked to Steve Mazzagatt about it. There was a break in the action and that was the perfect time for me to get my mouthpiece. I was wearing a clear mouthpiece and he had no idea it was knocked out. I pointed to it on the ground and he saw it. There was a break in the action. [Mazzagatti] said it was a good call and there was no problems with it. I wasn't hurt. I just didn't want to get hit in the mouth without my mouthpiece. It's so much easier to get knocked out when you don't have that damn mouthpiece in. But yeah, I would love to put that rumor to rest. I thought I was winning the fight, and mouthpiece in, mouthpiece out, he still wound up getting knocked out and he was losing the fight. What's next for Jamie Varner? I hoping the winner out of Razor Rob and Don Cerrone, the Cowboy. I think those are the next two best matchups. Or even possibly Richard Crunkilton. Any of those fights would be great. They're all right handed fighters, so when I go back to the gym on Monday I'm gonna start training for a right handed kickboxer and get ready and start getting geared up for the next one. Any shoutouts? Yeah, MTX Audio. Without them I wouldn't be able to do what I'm doing. Also LG Sports Marketing, they're my management team. Yeah, I know Jason over there, and he's a great guy. Cool. By the way, what do you think about the Rampage incident? Oh my gosh. I'm shocked by what happened there. I don't even know what to say about that. That's crazy. He just kind of snapped. I heard he's got some sort of bi-polar disorder or something. He definitely fell off the deep end. Hopefully he'll get his bearings straight and come back with some more good fight. Did you see Fedor vs Sylvia? Yeah, I watched that. What did you think? I think Fedor is an amazing fighter. He's the toughest guy in the world. But at 155 I'd say Jamie Varner would give him a run for his money. Tell Fedor if he wants to meet me at 170, 175, we can do that. (Laughs) I will be sure to mention that. Thanks for the interview, Jamie. Thanks, Garv.
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